Lost S5 E6 "316"

[Yooxra]

Going back to the isle! Watching now!

[Yooxra]

Jack be nimble, Jack be quick, that old crazy bitch is gonna make Jack do some crazy shit!

[Yooxra]

So i'm here posting as i'm watching but i get it. If jack changes Locke's shoes his feet won't smell and that will allow them to get back to the isle!

[Gogan]

That episode was ok. I was disappointed with their explanation of how to get back to the island. They made it sound pretty luck-based, e.g. "recreate the original crash as close as possible and hope for the best." What about the submarine that transported all the dharma people there, not just back in the 60s, but even recently with Juliet? Surely they weren't simply re-creating events that previously took place. Although it does make sense why they drugged Juliet to sleep for the trip.

Some interesting highlights from the episode:

* Aaron is gone and Kate refuses to talk about it? WTF. Lame.
* Wasn't Hurley in jail after turning himself into the authorities to avoid going back to the island? Now he's not only out, but knows all about the plane trip and willing to go. WTF.
* Why did Sayid suddenly change his mind too? And how did he find out about their trip and having to recreate the situation. Seemed like he was playing the part of Kate, as he was secretly in custody of some federal agent during the flight. The agent reminded me of Anna Lucia... coincidence?
* Jin showed up as one of the dharma. We can see how that happened, but WTF. Surely that had to have some implications on the events that later unfolded on the island. Major paradoxes there.

[Yooxra]

I agree. What about the ship that knew how to get there. Like you said. I guess we get to look forward to the next episode which might explain more now that they are back hopefully.

[Gogan]

I guess we get to look forward to the next episode which might explain more

Unfortunately, we've been saying that every week for the last 4 seasons. =P

[Yooxra]

Unfortunately, we've been saying that every week for the last 4 seasons. =P

But Asano, now that it swirled some more out of all the things that happened. I want to know what Ben did lol, did he kill penelope?

[Yooxra]

One other thing, Ben makes me laugh. "Jack, what about the other people","Ben, who cares?". I mean just lol.

[Gogan]

LOL, yea, that was great.

[Gogan]

I also liked when they were in the "Lighthouse", and Jack asked Ben if he knew this place existed. Ben said he didn't. Then Jack asked the old chick if he was telling the truth, and she says "Probably not".

[Yooxra]

Yeah i love that. Man that reminds me of Kiterr lol! Kiterr is like ben, get this.

"Kiterr, hey guys old content is easy, but i'm gonna play like shit"
"Yoox, Kiterr step it up"
"Kiterr, just replace me, whatever"
New hunter app up
"Kiterr, wtf guys you replacing me?"

So reminds me of Ben.

"Sun, i'm gonna kill you Ben"
"Jack, no worries sun if Ben is lying i'll kill him"
Ben pulls the van over!
"Ben, wtf guys just kill me if you gonna do it wahh"
"Sun, just shut up and drive the car"
"Ben, good let's go"

I must be watching to much Lost. But man it's sounds so similar to me.

[Cruci]

Unfortunately, we've been saying that every week for the last 4 seasons. =P

Thats the whole premise of the show broseph. We have false hope for years on end, and will probably end up with some lame ass ending next season. But hey, I like it!

[Gogan]

Yeah, I guess so. It's fun, for sure. And we've invested too much into the show at this point to simply stop watching -- especially when we're so close to the end! But I can't imagine they'll be able to write an ending that can satisfy all the hype and suspense they've built up. Seems like they've set themselves up for an inevitable let down. But maybe we'll be surprised.

[Yooxra]

Yeah, I guess so. It's fun, for sure. And we've invested too much into the show at this point to simply stop watching -- especially when we're so close to the end! But I can't imagine they'll be able to write an ending that can satisfy all the hype and suspense they've built up. Seems like they've set themselves up for an inevitable let down. But maybe we'll be surprised.

I dunno Asano, they are talking about Jesus now. No way this is gonna be bad!

[Lindorn]

Ooh man.

I'm sure in the next few episodes were going to see the story of John and what he said to all the others back in real time. And see how he persuaded them to go on the plane and get back to the island. A big theme in this episode was getting everyone to recreate the events and people on the plane when it first "crashed". I made a little list up at work today seeing the comparisons of who is who etc. IE Christian in flight 815 is Locke in flight 316. Kate on 815 is Sayid on 316 (In cuffs with cop). Charlie on 815 is Hurley on 316 (Guitar). There are a few more, but they weren't as concrete.

I've read and listened to some podcasts about what happened to Ben, when he was all beat up and bloody. Most common thought is that he was going after Penny and may or may not have killed her. Possibly Sayid or Widmore did it to him. (Maybe thats why Sayid was taken on the plane in cuffs?)

And for Jin on the island in the van. I think, that when John fixed the donkey wheel it stopped the flashes and the island stayed in whatever time they were. I believe that would be around the 1970's. This would explain why he is in a Dharma jumpsuit, possibly working for them undercover with the rest of the people who were going through flashes. As well, this would go along with the first scene in this season when Faraday was seen in the dig with Peter Chang (Marvin Candle).

Overall, a lot of answers and a lot of new things we need to learn. Main questions being:
- What happened to Kate and how she got into Jack's place
- How Hurley got out of jail
- What happened to Ben and why he got beat up
- What happened with Sayid
- Why Jin is in a Dharma van in a jumpsuit
- Where are the rest of the "Losties" from the plane (Sun, Sayid, Ben and Locke in the casket)
- When they are on the island

And probably a whole shit ton more, but hey. Lookin' cool so far !

[Gogan]

I'm so glad you're around Lindorn. =)

[Cruci]

I dunno Asano, they are talking about Jesus now. No way this is gonna be bad!

That and I was pretty hyped up when they announced a couple years back (during S3 I think) that they struck a deal with producers and were going to extend the show through 6 seasons. I thought it picked back up pretty well after the letdown that was the end of S2/beginning of 3, no way they phail after what we've had so far.

[Hondadude]

I saw that shit a mile away when they where at the airport and I saw hurly or whatever that fat ass is called. I was like "holy shit, look what hurly has over his shoulders" bitch had the guitar case that this other bitch found in the lagoon in season 1.

http://z.about.com/d/lost/1/0/L/U/-/-/Desmond_convince_charlie.jpg

Charlie in season 1 was playing it and fat boy did come up to him and said where did you find that. Charlie said in the lagoon but looked over the list on the plane and it didn't show anybody had one on the plane.

Then I was like wait a sec. Jack picked up the pic showing the date 1954 or whatever it said. I was like all my money these bitches go back in time to that year or near it. And bam I was right.

I am with you asano I wasn't happy at all on how they got back to the island but f all that.

http://www.losthatch.com/images%5Cscreen_captures%5CS3E20_Richard_Ageless.j pg

how the hell is richard still that dam young

[Lindorn]

Ahh, my post didn't show up. It was a big one too. Fix fix asanoz !

[Yooxra]

All the stuff to get back to the isle with the 316 story, just to appear on the isle makes you wonder. What happened to the other 4 people on the plane, did it crash? No i guess. Makes me wonder how the rambo and the boat people got to the isle if it's always moving and you can only get back there with certain windows? I have so many questions...

P.s. i can't wait to see Locke hang himself next week.

[Gogan]

Charlie in season 1 was playing it and fat boy did come up to him and said where did you find that. Charlie said in the lagoon but looked over the list on the plane and it didn't show anybody had one on the plane.

Then I was like wait a sec. Jack picked up the pic showing the date 1954 or whatever it said.

Wow, I missed all of that. Good catch.

I'll tell ya one thing... this show will be amazing to rewatch after it's all said and done. So many little things like that to pick up on.

[Hondadude]

Sucks I can't post pics so I will type in text.

I am going to change my theory on them coming back to 1954 or whatever that pic said that jack looked at in the "Lamp post". I am almost sure that they have arrived in the 1970s or 80s. Why you say because that guy Daniel Faraday the skinny science guy that looks like he never saw a naked girl before is suppose to warn Charlotte Staples Lewis the anthropologist lady that died two espiodes ago. He is suppose to some how talk to her mother and make her believe that her daughter is in danger and they leave the island.

All I want to know is how old is richard and wtf is Dharma Initiative like why the fuck are they on that dam island.

So far I am just happy they did something on the black smoke. We know now that its main purpose is to guard that temple and has the ability to take control of someone.

[Gogan]

So far I am just happy they did something on the black smoke. We know now that its main purpose is to guard that temple and has the ability to take control of someone.

They still have a LOT of explaining left to do about the smoke though. Like why does it always sound mechanical? And who created it? And what's the temple (or is that where the wheel is)? Doesn't seem like dharma created it, because we assume the electric fence they put up was to guard themselves against it. So then who?

[Cruci]

They still have a LOT of explaining left to do about the smoke though. Like why does it always sound mechanical? And who created it? And what's the temple (or is that where the wheel is)? Doesn't seem like dharma created it, because we assume the electric fence they put up was to guard themselves against it. So then who?

The other others.

[rursusferre]

my theory is that the smoke creature is a "course correcter". It kills things that aren't supposed to be there, or will somehow alter events that they shouldn't. In a way its mechanical, i guess. I dont think its alive in any real sense.

[Gogan]

That's what timelooptheory.com said. Still doesn't explain its mechanical nature, or where exactly it came from. Pretty sure the producers said they weren't going to explain things away via the supernatural too.

[rursusferre]

well, i think the "mechanical' sound effect is kinda misleading. I think its to maybe reinforce its a MECHANISM of time. Does that make sense? Like, its a natural occurence but mechanical(read as no thought/emotion/mercy) in its function.