walking dead again

[Stag]

sundays episode was meh at best for me.

[Yooxra]

Yeah, but it wasn't bad. What's up with Rick still going crazy!

[rursusferre]

Agreed. I was surprised at how boring it was

[Gogan]

Last night might've been the worst episode to date. Not a damn thing happened in the entire episode.

And why didn't Rick just kill the governor when he had the chance? He knew at the end of their meeting he'd go to war with him. Why not just end things right there?

Getting annoyed with this show.

[Gronthor]

Last night might've been the worst episode to date. Not a damn thing happened in the entire episode.

And why didn't Rick just kill the governor when he had the chance? He knew at the end of their meeting he'd go to war with him. Why not just end things right there?

Getting annoyed with this show.

Maybe this is why two key writers have left the show due to show's direction.

[Gronthor]

I understand they are building tension but it was the slowest pace without anything actually happening, and the show to commercial ratio is getting pretty terrible with the show being in the 35-40 min range with 20-23 min of commercials while most network hour longs are 42-46 min with the rest commercials.

I am getting pretty upset more with that part of it than the slow nature of the last episode as they will probably cram so much action in the last episode to leave you with a WTF just happened emotion.

[Pathology]

I agree. When was the last time anything significant happened with the undead in the series? Other then the Gov's daughter, which I still find one of the worst side stories. Oh look at me I chained my daughter up because I love her. Bad season thus far, I hope they can turn it around.

I want GoT and at least Arrow is getting good. Also, I am really liking The Americans.

[rursusferre]

Wow, I really didn't think that episode was bad at all. I am surprised you guys are saying "worst yet". I thought it was pretty solid. Maybe not super exciting, but I don't mind slow pace I guess. I do find it interesting that like, the last 3-4 episode basically have ended with a musical montage.

[Gogan]

Wow, I really didn't think that episode was bad at all. I am surprised you guys are saying "worst yet". I thought it was pretty solid. Maybe not super exciting, but I don't mind slow pace I guess. I do find it interesting that like, the last 3-4 episode basically have ended with a musical montage.

Actually, the musical montages have been my favorite part of the episodes. They remind me of how Lost used to end their episodes. I've been digging their song choices too. So they get points for that.

As for the slow pacing... I don't at all mind slow pacing as long as it advances the story, develops the characters, or builds tension. But they're not doing any of those things. You could literally skip the last couple episodes -- certainly last night's -- and not be any worse off. That's the crux of my complaint.

[rursusferre]

Oh, I agree the montages have actually been pretty awesome. I also thing the episode before last, with Morgan, while maybe didn't completely advance the story, was one of the best episodes of the series. I dunno, I guess I've always viewed the show as a drama that just happened to have zombies. I know a lot of people keep complaining about the pace, and I can see their point, just hasn't really bothered me too much. I can only assume the pace will pick up for the last couple of episodes.

[Rhun]

http://i.imgur.com/S0ofy4h.png

[Onion]

I'm confused :(

[Pathology]

I agree that it is more about the characters then the zombies, just like BSG was more about the people then the cylon conflict. The pace of the show has no affect on if the show is good it is the decision making of the characters in this season that is frustrating me. I understand Rick is going crazy I got that 5 episodes ago, evolve the crazy please don't make him go comfort his own friend who went crazy and learn zero from it. An entire episode dedicated to Rick and Morgan and what do we get at the end? More development between Mishon and Carl, that 10 mins of the episode was great.

Lots of focus on Andrea and I am still trying to figure out how she is developing? So she is in to egotistical narcissistic guys, but how did she change at all since her relationship with Shane? Yes she cares about people and ask these questions about what the gov did but then request a sit down with a guy she has been with for "months" and seems to be unable read at all. I am fine with her being wishy washy but she is completely oblivious to absolutely everything about him, did she really think there was any chance he would clear the air? Also how did this meeting get the okay from Rick's group (the previous 2 episodes did not make it appear this would in anyway fit in the story), from The Gov shooting up the prison out of no where and a plea of "you need to assassinate him Andrea" to "So I think me and the Gov are going to sit down over some whiskey and hash this out no problem, Andrea told me he pinky swore it was not an Ambush sound good gang alright back in a jiff."

I don't know maybe I am wrong, it isn't the pace that is getting to me it is the lack of development of the characters or the world/setting <--including the zombies.

[Pathology]

Sorry for the grammar errors, I write awful.
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[Gogan]

It's funny, I was going to say the same thing in my last post and then deleted it all.

The Morgan episode didn't both me so much. I guess I don't remember him from S1, but I assume he was there, so that episode provided some closure to that arc at least.

Everything else you mentioned though drives me nuts too.

[rursusferre]

He was the part of season 1, how could you forget him?!??

[Fusa]

He was the part of season 1, how could you forget him?!??
or his son who smacked the shit out of ricks face with a shovel.

[Gogan]

I don't remember much of S1. I think I watched it all late one night and it was before I really got interested in the show, so it never stuck in my head. I need to rewatch that season.

[Kz]

the part where they covered themselves in zombie guts has to ring a bell tho. that shit was nuts.

[Sly]

andrea is a dumb bitch.

[Gogan]

Agreed.

A fun drinking game might be to take a shot every time Andrea does something stupid. Although you'd likely pass out before the end of each episode.

Another thing that keeps annoying me about the show -- or at least last night -- is the way zombies seemingly appear out of nowhere without the characters seeing them. For example, when Andrea ducked off the road and hid behind a tree. Suddenly she's grab by a zombie from behind -- fair enough, I guess. But suddenly there are 2 zombies lurching her way directly in front of her. How in the world did she not see them sooner??

[Gronthor]

It would have been a short season had she done what a sane person would have done.

[Kz]

i agree with the ninja zombies 100% asano, i was just talking to yoox about that. like wtf how can u not hear/see zombies that walk 1mph and make noise.

[Stag]

i hate how the govenor randomly drove through a field and found andrea somehow then fought off 25 zombies and didnt die. This show for me is getting worse and worse and my expectations have made it worse. It used to be such a great show I looked forward to watching every week. I dont even bother to watch it sunday anymore its not worth wasting an hour

[Gogan]

This made me laugh:

http://mlkshk.com/r/PEHM

[Sly]

Yea, walkers have become more and more irrelevant. What happened to them being way more aggressive in packs and at night? The show has just become 5 minutes of entertainment at the beginning and end with a bunch of boring shit in the middle.

[Fusa]

Im going out on a limb here but I think the governor wants to make andrea and mich, into "walkers" no arms/jaw

I like his thinking

[rursusferre]

I'll take the lack of anyone rushing to post here that they sided with the general consensus of the internet that this finale was "meh".

[McGrupp]

I think we can all agree: thank God Andrea is dead. Being roughly an hour from where Daryl and Mearle are "supposedly" from, I'm sad Mearle died. Hard ass country boys are few and far between! Feel like they spoiled us on action the first 2 seasons, so all the drama/talk bloated this season. Enjoyable nonetheless.

[Gronthor]

I liked it, i don't need constant action to be entertained. I like how the group got back some of their humanity. Still don't like the character of Carl though.

[Stag]

Carl should have died when he got shot.

[rursusferre]

yeah, definitely won't miss andrea. Sad to see Merl go too. Sucks that they did a full circle with that character in one episode, only to lose him. Kind of surprised the Governor made it through the season. Kind of figured he would be a "seasonal" villain. Overall it wasn't a bad episode, just for a season finale it left me a little bit wanting. Glad he won't be seeing Lori anymore.

[Gogan]

I actually forgot all about Walking Dead on Sunday since Game of Thrones also premiered that night. Watched the finale last night. Wasn't a bad episode. I wish they wrapped up the Governor's character though. I'm really not interested in seeing him again.

I actually like what they're doing to Carl. He's still an annoying little shit, but the character development is interesting and poignant. Now that Rick is regaining his sense of humanity, Carl, who has seen the damage caused by being too hopeful and trusting is now headed down a dark path during his very impressionable years. There's potential for some good drama there.

Andrea was a moron at times, but she never bothered me too much. I'm a little surprised they killed her off. I knew they'd kill Merl off though. There was no way he could coexist peacefully after what he did to Michone, Glenn, and Maggy. So knowing he'd have to die, I actually like the way the writers did it. As much as a I hated the Governor, his method of killing someone and having them turn into a zombie to terrorize their friends was a great idea.

I think Walking Dead should take a page out of GoT's book and reduce the season to 10 episodes. This last season would've been much more successful without the dragged out storylines.

[Gronthor]

I was surprised by Andrea going out like that, since she is such a main character in the comics, but i guess by now i should know that the comics really don't hold sway over the show.

I can agree on the character development of Carl, i mean him shooting his mom after watching someone open her up to deliver a baby would probably f-up anyone. I just think it is the actor that plays him i don't like or something.

I did like that the they took in the refugees and thus Rick's redemption of his humanity. Hopefully he can stop flipping out and going crazy like.

Had to figure Merle was never long for that world, and the zombie terror approach from the governor is cool. I will say they probably need more character development on his (governor's) lieutenants as to just stand by and let him massacre all those people without any retaliation. Them just falling in line seemed off.