ahh.. I must of been thrown off by the juvenile "L2read" reply. A phrase commonly used for those who intend to flame but lack the ability or desire to form complete sentences. Which the abbreviation "imo" supports that logic.

Either way.... my mistake for jumping to conclusions.

Or it could mean you just failed to read something before opening your mouth

By the same logic your use of "btw" says what exactly?

OH THE IRONY!

and "mats"

man are you all from the same past server or something?

the HATE! I'm apalled! and afraid.

Perhaps you guys should purchase this to go along with your vaginas:

http://www.americaninventorspot.com/security_system

Hey Cider!

Big fan of all of your threads on the WoW forums, just linked my way here off of there. I apologize in advance, I have a couple off topic warrior questions for you. I know I could post on the warrior forums...but then it becomes a chore to sift through what is actually true!

1. Is SS threat calculated as (damage + threat)*modifiers?

Such as SS for 400 damage would equal (400 +307)*1.45 = 1025.15 threat?

2. Wondering if devestate works the same way.

I know I know, they may be noob questions, and I'm assuming they work this way. I just have not ever seen verification, never hurts to make sure!

Appreciate it if you have the time to answer. I'll come back with SS crits to make up for being off topic!

Thanks,

Jogre
Windrunner

Yes to both. Damage is added directly for both abilities, and both damage and threat receive the 30% and 15% multipliers. :)

I am fueled by pure rage as is Fevor, and Yoox.

daniel
 

LOL comedy Daniel...simple as that.

I guess i could continue to flame, but to what end?

Lets keep this constructive

on a side note: my apologies to Ciderhelm for semi-hijacking this thread.

should of played a warrior! lol

This thread is already contorted enough. :)

Mr....Helm
 

Well I'm glad to see you're ok with the contortion, because I'm back for another off topic question!

First, thank you for answering my previous questions. And the new question is, is there truly a 75% mitigation cap from armor?

And if so, is that also affected by the 10% damage reduction from D stance?

The reason I ask, is that raid buffed, I hit about 60% damage reduction from armor. Throw in that extra 10% and that puts me at 70% reduction. Am I really only 5% from the cap?


PS: Auto-Blocker is getting BUFFED next patch! 59 block value.

Those reductions occur at different times (the Defensive Stance and Armor).

Defensive Stance reduction is handled before everything else, a straight 10% off the incoming damage. Armor is calculated after it. More importantly, Shield Block is calculated after it (and Armor) so you always get the full effect from a block and blocks become pretty overpowered in some places.

There IS a hard cap of 75% mitigation from Armor. It will be a very, very long time before anyone reaches it. The only times I reached it were a handful of times in Naxxramas with every possible buff (Loatheb, for instance) and Lay On Hands, etc. procs. That kind of mitigation makes you essentially unkillable., because you then factor in your avoidance/block/defensive stance/etc., and suddenly mobs that would destroy most people can barely scratch you if you have good healers.


The Auto Blocker... a total of 59 additional block value? or the On Equip bonus was raised to meet that? Either way, very good!

Thanks
 

Ahhh ok, gives me some things to think about. Looks like with my AC the defensive stance adds an additional 4% mitigation. Putting me around 64%. I still have a lonnnng ways to go. Thanks again Cider.

And god I wish an addition 59 BV on the trinker, but sadly, they are just raising it to 59 BV total. Along with loads of other buffs to lvl 70 epic gear.

hmm... Well it's still something :-) Every single value gives something in the end.

Btw Cider. Honestly, do you think you will keep being able to use Autoblock and the Glyph at the same time to make them stack? I mean it's quite alot of block you stack there. All casters got nerfed on this princip long time ago, when they had the imba use trinket from MC and the one from Hakkar in ZG.

Just curious :-)

Also the new movie is soon done mate. But I will link it here as promised :-)

I think Blizzard tends to nerf things that are popular and tends to leave other things alone. Since not alot of people take Prot too seriously in PVP, Blizzard doesn't need to go nerfing Prot. :D

I was very, very surprised that they stacked, though. I bought the Azure Shield of Coldarra with my badges before the Auto Blocker... I was kind of hoping someone else would get the Auto Blocker before me and test if they stacked. Alas, no, I am pretty sure I was the first person to actually take the risk.

But defensive trinkets are supposed to be stackable. They may be nerfed, I wouldn't be surprised, but there was at least logical reasoning.

im telling blizzard on you

Thank you sir, I try.

Know the numbers but...
 

I have been wondering a bit. hehe

As the abillity say, Shield slam does 420-440 dmg. Then it is modified by your block value. As it says. Then you take 3/3 Shield Mastery. Which improves your block value with 30%. Now this should look like this, according to my understanding; ~430+(BV*1,3) or the other way, which I don't fully trust; (~430+BV)*1,3. Which way is the correct? The difference is too small, for me to have noticed in game. Well atleast way too many things mitigate it. Like locks with their DMG reduce, warrior in zerger stance, Shadowpriest with their dmg reduce etc. etc. etc.

What is correct?

The new movie
 

Hey again :-)

As I promised, I would link the new movie. It just got approved on Warcraftmovies today. Here is the link. I kinda hope you will watch it Cider ^^

http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=40096

downloading now!

Akill,

That was incredbile. Perfect editing, perfect design, and most of all, perfect PVP

There's really not much I can say in words. I've spent hours and days editing movies myself, so I know the work you put into it and how you feel about it. However good you feel about it, understand it really is that good. :D

With that said, has this been posted to the Warrior Forums for either the EU or US yet?


-Cider

12k SS crit. Jeezus Man. Sexy Vid great Songs.

Ohh nono Schultz :-O The 12k were not SS! It was an execute :-D I never made it bigger then Cider.

I am really glad you liked it Cider :-) Actually I didnt expect you to like it that much infact. Really makes me happy :-)

No I can't post on forum :-( There is a log in bug again... It's so annoying. Cause I would like more warriors to see this video. Also because I havent seen any Protection war videos yet so... Dunno exacly how to do this.

I loved it man, it was beautiful.

Oh snap my bad. I was too caught up in the BIG numbers to notice the animation. Either way awesome vid :P

np :D
 

hehe np mate :D Im just happy you enjoyed the movie ^^

Minute Marker 1:05 of Starcraft 2 Art Trailer:

Terran Marines have shields.

omg army of shield slams

Check out these new boots and helm from patch 2.1.

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30031 - Blacksmithing boots. the mats are too bad to get if you have the cash.
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32871 this looks like a fairly easy quest reward for a helm with block value, for those who don't have the warbringer helm.

"mats aren't too bad" *** man i should spell check.

great vid by akilluez...until the very end that is

sheesh, cider gets his ass kissed over seas as well? lame.org

You can edit posts in this forum can't you?

I don't think Registered Non-Member users can edit their own posts. It's fun to watch people screw up their apps and be unable to fix it. :D

lolz

ass kissing aside, it really IS a killer vid. Bout time someone threw some Manson in a good vid

AND

damn you; it REALLY makes me wanna play wow :(

Just added embedded Akilleuz movie into thread.

omg I would love those boots :-o Mamma! Only boots I kinda know of, is T2 so...

And now im on the front with the champ him self ^^ hehe Feeling special now :-D thx :-)