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Originally Posted by Nucholza
My guess would be that they time traveled so much with the island that they "lost" their humanity and became the keepers or whatever of the island. I'd be surprised if this included actually shedding their physical forms and leaving corpses behind.
A simple explanation to all the hieroglyphics would be that Jacob/Smokey were originally from that time period and that's how they used to communicate and learned english/other languages over the incredibly long period of time they've been "alive", or rather trapped. But, I'd like to think there's a more complex and beautiful explanation to all the hieroglyphics than that.
I wonder how long Jacob/Smokey have actually been on the island for. There's ash on the island before Jacob dies which would indicate prior keepers. Maybe they keep reliving the same time period over and over until one of them is able to "win". Each time they redo the same time period they gain more knowledge of the candidates and they're able to manipulate them even more. So then the alternate timeline we're seeing where 815 didn't crash is a failed attempt that was just "progress" and Jacob/Smokey used the island to go back in time and start over. Who knows how many times that's happened and that's why when the losties see each other outside the island they get a sense of familiarity.
But I guess that doesn't make much sense when we saw that Jack suddenly had his appendix missing in the alternate time line and can't remember having the surgery done. Maybe Jacob/Smokey have turned back time so much that parts of the time lines are beginning to blend/mesh together into one or something.
I was pretty bored in class today so I just kept thinking about lost lol
Something else to note is remember how Farraday kept saying that to get to and from the island you had to make sure you kept a bearing of 305? I wonder if that's because the dial in the lighthouse was set to 305? or does that number have some sort of other significance or none at all?
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Good theory about the time travel part for Jacob/Smokey. Also about how it might be possible to be playing the time periods over and over. Remember how some of the people that were on the island died from time traveling to much? Could explain how Jacob/Smokey lost their physical bodies possibly. Jacob did always know when to intervene in the candidates lives when they were children to steer them to the island. I would think with the power they have they could time travel. However, i don't think Richard could time travel cause he was always trying to figure out who the people were that went back in time and tryed to explain things to him(Locke for example). Richard is an advisor, but i'd still like to know how deep he fits into this whole story.
It might be possible that Jacob/Smokey been around that long(egyptian times). This was a question Asano and I through around some, but we have no answer. If there were prior keepers it makes me wonder how long Jacob has been a keeper for, and how long has he been trying to find a replacement. I'm not sure if they are trying to "win" something, but Smokey has found ways around the "rules", and just seems to want to escape now(possibly cause he couldn't "win"). So maybe Jacob was to keep Smokey trapped there for all time or something else.
Something else, at times the island just seems like a test. Even more so when you have the child say things like you can't break the rules.