GoT S4 is out

[Gogan]

Wow, good stuff.

[rursusferre]

Well i believe its also big motivation for him to leave westeros because I think he is going to find her. Or atleat he thinks he is. We'll see. There is still a lot of ground to cover.

[Rhun]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...c-of-geometry/

[Blake]

holy fuck 2023


do you guys think the TV series will ruin the story?

[Gogan]

Sounds like even under the best case scenario, the tv show will finish before the books. And since GRRM told the tv writers how, roughly, it'll end, then yeah I'd say the TV series will ruin some large parts of the story for the readers.

[McGrupp]

I don't think it'll ruin it, I watched the first season before reading the 1st book, so something similar may be on the horizon

[Fusa]

I don't think it will ruin it, the show has already combined chars, deleted story lines, and pretty much changed the course of everything.

so its like taking an early fork in the road that (may or may not) end up at the very same ending. and even if that is true and the endings are miraculously the same, when the show diverges/changed/altered the course it wouldn't "ruin" anything.

Most book readers were upset at the s4 final because it was no where near the same.

- Tyrion wasn't told by his brother that his first wife wasn't a whore ( so jamie is still liked by tyrion)
- Vary's got on the boat with Tyrion and left kings landing
- That kid (Jojen) never died before he entered the cave ( still alive )
- No lady stoneheart
- Three eye'd raven still has two eyes LAWL
- Oh and I forgot the major thing people apparently liked that wasn't in the books

The Hound vs Brienne of FOOKin Tarth

[Gogan]

I haven't read the books so I may be speaking completely out of ignorance here, but...

Originally Posted by McGrupp

I don't think it'll ruin it, I watched the first season before reading the 1st book, so something similar may be on the horizon

The first book just presents lots of questions to the reader/watcher though. There's not much to spoil. There's a big difference between knowing about the first seventh of a story, and knowing the last seventh.

Originally Posted by Fusa

I don't think it will ruin it, the show has already combined chars, deleted story lines, and pretty much changed the course of everything.

I think that's a pretty big exaggeration. "Everything" hasn't changed. The fundamental story arc is still very much intact. From what I've gathered the TV show is at least 75% the same as the book, and in terms of the fundamental story, I'm betting it's 95% accurate.

I wouldn't consider any of the inconsistencies you mentioned as "major". The major story arc is how the different characters/factions come together in Westeros and challenge each other for supremacy. Who are the white walkers, what is their motivation, and what impact will they have once they breach the wall? Does Daenerys reach Westeros to challenge the Lannisters as rightful heir to the throne? What role will Bran, Jon, and Arya play in all of this?

By the end of the tv show, we will no doubt have answers to all of those questions and they will likely play out very similarly to the books (or at least GRRM's vision for the books). Nobody knows how this whole story will end, but GRRM's fundamental vision will come through in the show. And that's what will be spoiled for the readers.

[Rhun]

Pretty much what asano said.

[McGrupp]

My GOL bookmark now has a logo! Not sure if this is intentional or not lol.
While some of the stories and characters have changed, been omitted, or were never introduced, the synopsis of the series is accurate.