GoT S4 is out

[rursusferre]

Its more complicated than that grupp, but to some degree thats true.

[rursusferre]

The thing is, we have sort of been told that Castors sons are turned into white walkers before, its just never been confirmed. Castors wives made the comment akin to "His brothers are coming to take him" or something, implying this to be the case, but like with most things, we don't know if its just bullshit or not. The episode confirms this to be true, which is a big deal. The BIGGER deal is that apparently HBO accidentally released a huge spoiler in the episode description saying that we meet the Night King. In the books, he is just one of the million stories we are told about. Some people refer to him as a story, others as a prophecy for the future. This episode definitely (apparently) shows/states who/what he is. It was the first time something happened on the show that is potentially in the future books, kind of a reverse direction spoiler. In the end it doesn't really ruin anything, it just really helps flesh out a part of the story (The white walkers) that has literally had ZERO information through all five books. Thats why the internet is so a buzz. We have never had The Land That Is Always Winter even described before and then BOOM, not only do we go there, but we see that they are apparently organized into a real society.

[Fusa]

Originally Posted by rursusferre

The thing is, we have sort of been told that Castors sons are turned into white walkers before, its just never been confirmed. Castors wives made the comment akin to "His brothers are coming to take him" or something, implying this to be the case, but like with most things, we don't know if its just bullshit or not. The episode confirms this to be true, which is a big deal. The BIGGER deal is that apparently HBO accidentally released a huge spoiler in the episode description saying that we meet the Night King. In the books, he is just one of the million stories we are told about. Some people refer to him as a story, others as a prophecy for the future. This episode definitely (apparently) shows/states who/what he is. It was the first time something happened on the show that is potentially in the future books, kind of a reverse direction spoiler. In the end it doesn't really ruin anything, it just really helps flesh out a part of the story (The white walkers) that has literally had ZERO information through all five books. Thats why the internet is so a buzz. We have never had The Land That Is Always Winter even described before and then BOOM, not only do we go there, but we see that they are apparently organized into a real society.

This is not a spoiler http://imgur.com/a/UlXmf, it is just a very funny reaction compilation as to what is going on in the tv series.

I have never read the books nor will I, but this is exactly how all of you book readers felt as you watched the show.




Also on my own theory about the white walkers are sorta like Grupps, Castor wasn't afraid to be out there, he was either (forced to do this) or ( agreed to do this).

I forget the episode but one Woodward Tree as Sam and the woman pass by with the baby ( yells/calls for a whitewalker to get the baby//also if I am wrong I thought it reacted to the death of one of the white walkers), so the (greenseer/raven) knows about these babies/whitewalkers as-well.

Which makes me think that some how all of these things are intertwined, maybe Bran is going to see the Raven who is in a sorta truce/working with the white walkers who is in turn somehow related (maybe by blood) with Castor but overall I think everyone including the whitewalkers are working for and somehow have the same ambition as the Raven beyond the wall. ( There has to be a reason why he went beyond the wall and stayed there )

What I don't understand is the relationship between the two, like why would the trees warn about a baby leaving and why haven't the white walkers killed/fucked with the children of the forest.

[Rhun]

well since rufus already said that that dude was the nights king, here is another thing...



notice how many there are in this picture? the night's king was the 13th Lord Commander of the Night's Watch.

[rursusferre]

Yeah, I am not sure it is a spoiler or not. It's just a fleshing out of back story we have never heard.

[Gogan]

I get the feeling that this story about the others/white walkers/whatever is completely lost on the tv-only audience. Seems like there's tons of backstory that is pretty critical (and interesting) to appreciate what we're seeing. Hope they can fill us in and do it justice to it later on.

Wonder whether it's just going to consist of these thin threads of a story revealed in little bits throughout the seasons until it becomes the main story at the end -- requiring us to rewatch the whole series to pick up on everything.

[Fusa]

Originally Posted by Gogan

I get the feeling that this story about the others/white walkers/whatever is completely lost on the tv-only audience. Seems like there's tons of backstory that is pretty critical (and interesting) to appreciate what we're seeing. Hope they can fill us in and do it justice to it later on.

Wonder whether it's just going to consist of these thin threads of a story revealed in little bits throughout the seasons until it becomes the main story at the end -- requiring us to rewatch the whole series to pick up on everything.

I think it is more of the fact, the books are very detailing (in general) and when it come to the white walkers (everything is vague) so pretty much book readers have been waiting for a new book forever but they infact just got new information from the tv show ( and I think the tv and the books are going to go two different directions)

they would have to the show is progressing faster then books are being produced (2 more seasons just got signed and the last show of this season is named (The Children) assuming bran gets to the cave ( that is where the books end))

[rursusferre]

Honestly Asano, not really. There is literally NOTHING about the White Walkers over 5 books. My wife is constantly asking me things about them and I just have to say "I have no fucking idea". You know (as a show watcher) really everything the people who have read the books do. Thats always kind of puzzled me about the books. There are 2 books left to tie up not only all of the stuff involving the politics of the show, but really, if we are to believe the way the story is hinting at it, a war between humans and ice walkers. The problem is this war hasn't even really started yet, let alone knowing WHY there is a war.

[Rhun]

Yeah there are bits and pieces throughout the current 5 books about the wights. But for the most part there isn't much. One of the stupid things about the whole story. It starts with how a wight kills a night's watch guy, and after 5 books, not much at all has happened with them.

It's nice the makers of the show are getting ahead of the books, they at least see that it's pretty dumb to have an audience wait that long to get to the real story (even if it's only a tease, it's still fun to see new stuff).

Also none of stuff about Jon and the night's watch guys going to attack the mutineers ever happened in the books. Which is another thing that's cool to see as a book reader, not know what they're throw at you makes a better experience.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zz5K_j4TRMs

[Kz]

i want bran to worg him some dragons!