(*Lost*)

[Nucholza]

Originally Posted by Yooxra

Yeah i agree i think she is trying to absolve herself about Aaron with Claire. I thought she took Aaron because she thought Claire was dead at that point or gone. I mean the baby was left alone remember? Was there really a choice to leave the baby alone. So Kate decides after the three years that she wants to find Claire all of a sudden? That is why she came back to the island right? I'm alittle fuzzy on this part.

Well, they didn't have a choice in taking Aaron or not, but Kate made the choice to raise him rather than give him to Claire's mom. She kept Aaron a secret from any of his real family. Also she waited 3 years before deciding to try and find Claire instead of going after her sooner.

Originally Posted by Yooxra

Dogen didn't finish off Sayid himself either

The baseball dropping from the table right as Dogen is about to kill Sayid is probably very significant to why he didn't kill Sayid himself. My guess would be the baseball was his son's and for some reason seeing it drop made him think twice about killing.

Originally Posted by Yooxra

Sayid realized that he wouldn't do his own dirty work became angry and killed him(maybe he thought Dogen was a coward or whatever other reason).

Is that why Sayid killed him? Seems to me the reason Sayid killed him is because Smokey asked him to after delivering the message. Dogen was what kept Smokey out of the temple so he needed Sayid to kill Dogen for him or he couldn't keep his promise of killing everyone that wouldn't come with him after sundown.

[Gogan]

Originally Posted by Nucholza

Well, they didn't have a choice in taking Aaron or not, but Kate made the choice to raise him rather than give him to Claire's mom. She kept Aaron a secret from any of his real family. Also she waited 3 years before deciding to try and find Claire instead of going after her sooner.

Claire is just batshit insane now. Crazy people don't need logical reasons to do the things they do. On a side note, I loved the look she gave Kate when Kate explained that she was raising Aaron. Such an awesomely eerie and evil look.

Originally Posted by Nucholza

The baseball dropping from the table right as Dogen is about to kill Sayid is probably very significant to why he didn't kill Sayid himself. My guess would be the baseball was his son's and for some reason seeing it drop made him think twice about killing.

Yeah, I'm guessing there's more to that story. Dogen's story just kind of stopped without really explaining why exactly that memory caused him to suddenly have mercy on Sayid.

Originally Posted by Nucholza

Seems to me the reason Sayid killed him is because Smokey asked him to after delivering the message. Dogen was what kept Smokey out of the temple so he needed Sayid to kill Dogen for him or he couldn't keep his promise of killing everyone that wouldn't come with him after sundown.

That was my impression as well.

[Yooxra]

Originally Posted by Nucholza

Well, they didn't have a choice in taking Aaron or not, but Kate made the choice to raise him rather than give him to Claire's mom. She kept Aaron a secret from any of his real family. Also she waited 3 years before deciding to try and find Claire instead of going after her sooner.

Yeah, i remember that now thanks. I think that Claire would say the same thing " wut my momma raised my kid, she dies now!". Like Asano said crazy people don't need logical reasoning. I see why Kate wants to make it right.

Originally Posted by Nucholza

The baseball dropping from the table right as Dogen is about to kill Sayid is probably very significant to why he didn't kill Sayid himself. My guess would be the baseball was his son's and for some reason seeing it drop made him think twice about killing.

Yeah it was mercy then for Sayid cause of this part. I guess he could of killed him and there was nothing really stopping him except him not wanting to jeopardize something.

Originally Posted by Nucholza

Is that why Sayid killed him? Seems to me the reason Sayid killed him is because Smokey asked him to after delivering the message. Dogen was what kept Smokey out of the temple so he needed Sayid to kill Dogen for him or he couldn't keep his promise of killing everyone that wouldn't come with him after sundown.

Yeah it is. It just really seemed like Sayid wouldn't of did it if Dogen wasn't trying to kill him. Even for the proposal of Smokey to reunite him with Nadia(maybe). Maybe Sayid would of anyway cause Nadia is the only thing he cared about really. Sayid just always seemed like a good guy even tho the whole iraq army thing and him trying to avoid that kind of stuff.

Thing is really from what i'm seeing with the show. Once you go bad there is no turning back no matter how hard you try to make a mends.